Thursday, July 11, 2013

How My Vasectomy Ruined Me



My vasectomy went as planned. It was done by a top surgeon in the area that specializes in this procedure. Vasectomy doctors have lots of funny names. Some of them in my area at the time were named. Dr.Gentile and Dr. No.

My wife and I talked about the pros and cons of a vasectomy. She cited college, savings, groceries, and budgeting concerns. My contribution? We were going to have all kinds of sex in crazy places since we would be unencumbered by those pesky birth control things. Yes. I am a dreamer. In the end, we decided that we were truly blessed with the three healthy kids that we did have and decided it was the "right" thing to do.

Pregnancy is an awesome time because of what you are looking forward to but you women have it rough. It's truly amazing what you put your bodies through for us. My wife wasn't looking forward to those issues that came along with it. I think that I had finally convinced her that V-Day for my junk was a good thing. I told her that if I was staying at home, watching three kids was my limit. One kid, one on one is pretty easy. It's when you go from one to two or two to three where kids are going to get left behind.

I was apprehensive about the procedure. I have never had any kind of surgery and have only broken my big toe in gym class playing indoor soccer. I've only been in the hospital twice that I can remember. Once, for being so constipated my mom had to feed me some medicine that made me poop like Jeff Daniels in Dumb and Dumber. The second time I had pneumonia and only really remember reading comic books and playing checkers while I recovered.

I read all the literature about what could go wrong, how it was a permanent fix, and mostly about how insurance covers the vasectomy procedure but if you wanted it reversed, you were going to have to pony up $10,000 of your own money. Yeah, well that's not going to happen for any amount of money.



The procedure itself wasn't so bad. Laying buck naked from the waist down with your legs spread, you know what I am talking about ladies. The doctor took care of my naughty bits with care. Tried to talk to me about football while he was slicing and dicing. I was a little worried when he found out I was a Bears fan because he was a hardcore Eagles fan. I probably should have said "Oh, you like the foosball?" and changed the subject, afraid he was going to take something extra out of there that I really needed.

Then he said something I will never forget. "Ok, now I am going to pull on your vas deferens, which is going to feel like I am repeatedly kicking you in the balls." The what now?

It was exactly as described. If you've ever had your kids jump on you or hit you with some kind of projectile you know that exact feeling. If you are a guy, you are probably thinking of that aching that rises up in your stomach. If you are a girl, you are probably laughing. Nut shots never get old unless you are on the receiving end.

Then he said "You may feel some heat as I will be burning the ends. Huh? Watching smoke rise from between my legs while he cauterized the ends kind of freaked me out. With the anesthesia, I didn't feel anything down there but the pressure. It felt like someone was stepping on my groin but I was thinking about what I witnessed as my wife pushed our kid's heads out of her va-jay-jay and thought "Stop being such a pussy!"

What I didn't expect was my wife in the waiting room crying. "It's all so permanent." she said tearfully. Yes honey, and there is no way they are ever going to open up my coin purse again. I walked gingerly to the car and swung my 6'7" frame into the car. I thought back to when my wife and I were taking my son home from the hospital after his circumcision, and how he screamed in agony as the five point harness hit all the wrong areas. I prayed that my wife could avoid any potholes for the next twenty minutes.

I recovered fine. I enjoyed being waited on by everyone while I was laid up and reliant on a bag of frozen peas that we marked "Chris' peas" so we wouldn't serve a bag that had spent significant time in close proximity to my nuts. It was the recovery period after the painkillers wore off that changed me.

I have never been the same since the procedure. Complications from a vasectomy are rare, but what they don't tell you is that 60% of guys will suffer from something called a sperm granuloma. A sperm granuloma is a traffic jam of sperm who are making their way through their usual route only to realize that it has become a dead end.

Your body doesn't realize what is happening and can't absorb those little suckers fast enough. This traffic jam materializes in your scrotum as a hard ball. Now, imagine walking around with a hard Cat's Eye sized marble between your legs that repeatedly knocks against something everytime you walk. People who saw me afterwards thought I had just ridden a horse. No, it's just my swollen nutsack, don't mind me.

The doctor said that it was pretty common and that steroids would knock it out. Eventually, my body would get used to it, and absorb the sperm back into my tissues. Yes. I just said sperm going into my tissues. After treatments of a steroids to get rid of the granuloma, I began experiencing Post-Vasectomy Pain Syndrome. This is a pain in your ass groin. A dull, aching feeling that affects your sex drive and can cause painful ejaculation. Those are two words that should not go together.

I went to a urologist to have this checked out. This was my first time visiting this guy. Probably the worst observation while waiting in a urologist's room whom you have never met before is that the latex glove box was emblazoned with XXL SIZE. What does this guy have for fingers I thought... Sausages? You can imagine my discomfort.

I knew what was about to happen and knowing that was the only way to be sure didn't make it easier. Long story short, my prostate was enlarged and swollen which affected everything else. I started to freak out because my dad had prostate cancer. I had read that vasectomy could be linked to prostate cancer but the doctor later tells me that my bloodwork is clear and so is my urine. After three rounds of different antibiotics, the inflammation goes away. However, it keeps coming back.

I was fine before the surgery, never had any problems, so I am attributing this to the change in my inner workings. So now, occasionally, I have flare ups. My prostate acts up and apparently I now suffer from chronic prostatitis. Sometimes I have to pee so frequently that you might think I am a 90 year old man and not a 38 year old man. I am getting older, but this is ridiculous. After a few weeks of this, I head back to the urologist.

He tells me that I have to give up caffeine. That caffeine especially in coffee and pop can cause the swelling. So, I can't drink coffee for the caffeine, which for a blogger is 25% of your content. I can't post about the best part of waking up because there is no kick in my cup.On the positive side, since I have given up caffeine, I have not suffered from my usual migraines which I used to get at least once a month, so at least I have that going for me.

My urologist sees me occasionally now and he regularly asks me if I am getting any. He explains that I have to keep things moving down there. Clear the pipes so to speak.

Last time and every time I have been there he says to me "Have you been having sex with your partner or yourself regularly?"

I say "Define regularly. I mean, I do alright."

He says "Well, you need to ejaculate every two days. Either it can be with your partner or yourself."

I say "Can I get a prescription for that, because my wife will never believe me."

165 comments:

  1. When do fancy $11-a-3-pack of condoms seem reasonable? When you read this terrifyingly hilarious post.

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    1. I was thinking exactly the same thing 😂😂😂😂😂

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    2. Can I have everyone's opinion....I got a vasectomy in March 2016, it's now almost 7 months later and I'm experiencing SO much pain it is hard to sit for more than 30 mins. I have to stand all day And I can't work because I get sharp pains. and burning & pinching sensations from what feels like the Pelvic Floor
      I'm only 24!
      The recovery went, "okay"..i got bruising and swelling for a month!
      then most of the pain went away.

      I wish i didn't do it now, but whatever. I got put on some anti-inflammatories to rule out an infection about 2 months ago, that definitely helped with the pain but i stopped them about 3 weeks ago and the pain is worse than ever!

      I don't know whether to get more meds (IF i even can) or get a reversal(which is what my urologist said to do).
      I keep reading about horror stories of more surgeries to correct PVPS and I just want my life back :(( I can'y play sports, I can't play music..this has literally ruined my life. I still get erections, but after i ejaculate it hurts. And even during the erections it hurts.
      I'm just at a loss for what to do...

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  2. Yikes... I was just thinking about maybe doing it yesterday... Now I think I'll just go with a few more kids or abstinence.

    Also, Jeff Daniels!

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  3. Thanks guys. I thought that a story like mine might help sway people one way or the other. Like "Honey! Check out what happened to this guy!" Thanks for catching my mistake Oren. Not sure my editor would have caught that either.

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    1. My brother in law recently had a vasectomy. He never healed from it so the Dr decided to cauterize it. While he was cauterizing his pager went off and the Dr left the room for 15minutes with the cauterizing burner on his scrotum. Now my brother in laws nuts are extremely burned and infected.

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    2. I'm actually thinking about having it done. I'm 37 wife's 34 haven't had any luck in the kid department and really not enthusiastic about being a older dad. How many guys on here has had a swollen prostate beforehand that has had it done?

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    3. The story fits mine perfectly. I wish I never got it done. Always looks like I'm walking around with a hard on! Nope, that's just my mega ball!

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    4. I wish I had read this blog before my vasectomy. What they fail to tell you is that you are basically playing Russian roulette with your genitals. Some men have no problems, but others, like me (and more I am finding out), end up with all kinds of complications. My procedure was last Friday. Today is Tuesday, and ALL of my privates are a deep, dark purple (almost black). And the pain...aye yi yi, where do I begin? My member is numb, but below that feels like a combination of getting hit in the junk, a pulled muscle, and being stabbed, all at the same time! This is easily one of the worst decisions in my life! NOW I'm finding out that many men experience prolonged, severe pain and other complications, including the potential for pain with every erection. The doctors do not inform you of any of this before, and to be quite honest, listening to the wives of men who have had it done is a huge mistake. Women have an agenda here and I have no doubt they perpetuate this procedure for their own convenience. If you are thinking of getting a vasectom, RUN! FAST AND FAR!! Use condoms, abstain, whatever you have to do, JUST AVOID HAVING YOURSELF CUT OPEN! Russian roulette, man. Most of the time you end up with an empty chamber. But, are you willing to sacrifice your jewels on that kind of a chance? I really wish someone had been honest with me about it. Regret regret regret.

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    5. I wish I had read this blog before my vasectomy. What they fail to tell you is that you are basically playing Russian roulette with your genitals. Some men have no problems, but others, like me (and more I am finding out), end up with all kinds of complications. My procedure was last Friday. Today is Tuesday, and ALL of my privates are a deep, dark purple (almost black). And the pain...aye yi yi, where do I begin? My member is numb, but below that feels like a combination of getting hit in the junk, a pulled muscle, and being stabbed, all at the same time! This is easily one of the worst decisions in my life! NOW I'm finding out that many men experience prolonged, severe pain and other complications, including the potential for pain with every erection. The doctors do not inform you of any of this before, and to be quite honest, listening to the wives of men who have had it done is a huge mistake. Women have an agenda here and I have no doubt they perpetuate this procedure for their own convenience. If you are thinking of getting a vasectom, RUN! FAST AND FAR!! Use condoms, abstain, whatever you have to do, JUST AVOID HAVING YOURSELF CUT OPEN! Russian roulette, man. Most of the time you end up with an empty chamber. But, are you willing to sacrifice your jewels on that kind of a chance? I really wish someone had been honest with me about it. Regret regret regret.

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    6. I feel your pain I've just got one done myself and as I was getting cut the doctor says it will feel like your getting kicked in the balls. First nut cut not so bad felt pressure, but the second one the doctor had to rotate my nut to gain access to the tube. Can I say f--- me the pain while rotating my ball while my sack was open with no numbing agent at local location was very painful. Now after 7 days I'm still having pain on the side that the doc rotated and have lost time at work causing loss of money and pain while walking. I would rather used condoms for the rest of my life than get this done.

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    7. I feel your pain I've just got one done myself and as I was getting cut the doctor says it will feel like your getting kicked in the balls. First nut cut not so bad felt pressure, but the second one the doctor had to rotate my nut to gain access to the tube. Can I say f--- me the pain while rotating my ball while my sack was open with no numbing agent at local location was very painful. Now after 7 days I'm still having pain on the side that the doc rotated and have lost time at work causing loss of money and pain while walking. I would rather used condoms for the rest of my life than get this done.

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    8. To "anonymous"
      The "cauterizing burner" can not be "left on" causing a burn. It is a pen-like, hand-held instrument called a Bovie and there is a button the dr pushes (or a foot pedal) and once either is released, the cautery stops. So, your brother-in-law is completely wrong, that incident never happened.

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    9. To "anonymous"
      The "cauterizing burner" can not be "left on" causing a burn. It is a pen-like, hand-held instrument called a Bovie and there is a button the dr pushes (or a foot pedal) and once either is released, the cautery stops. So, your brother-in-law is completely wrong, that incident never happened.

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  4. ... I laughed, I cried and I will never eat peas at your house. Thanks for sharing, sorry it has been so rough on you and thank you for giving me the strength to hem, haw and holdout even longer on doing the deed.

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  5. Sorry your balls got pissed at you. I was jealous of your "after" care, for about a paragraph. They wanted me fully under for mine, but I talked them into locals. Sooo glad to have that memory. Awesome post.

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  6. We're on our last kid, and scheduling a c-section, so my wife will be having her's done instead of mine. We have two hospitals in town, and one is Catholic run, so they don't offer birth control options. We are going with the other one. They'll be in there already and can tie up any loose ends right then and there. While I haven't read up on vasectomies, I'm glad not to be facing one after reading this. Thank you.

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  7. Ugh. Sorry to hear you had that reaction. I went through the procedure and thankfully was knocked out for the whole thing. I have no idea how you stayed awake while they sliced and diced your twigs and berries!

    I just remember spending the recovery weekend on the couch with the bag of frozen peas between my legs as I played Fallout on my Xbox.

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  8. The fun one for me Chris is that I was on the family trip last year and at the wife's family cottage on Middle Bass Island in Lake Erie and pissed brown. Figured since I was going to be back home on that next Saturday, I would wait until Monday to see my PCP. Slept Saturday night and felt a twinge down there (my vasectomy was 6-22-12) and just figured I did something boneheaded while I was sleeping. By time morning came around I was in severe pain. Went initially to the urgent care by the house and was advised that I needed an ultra sound and the only place to do that was at the hospital. Went to the E.R. (can you imagine the fun of the ER doc examining) and the ER doc with the help of the urologist determined that I had a 10 mm, oblong kidney stone one the opposite side of an infection that I had. Both docs were shocked that the kidney stone was not the thing causing the pain I was suffering from. At one point in recovery, I broke down on bought depends as I kept leaking and needing to go at one point every five minutes. Worst experience of my life. Fortunately it appears that the procedure worked for the swimmers and I would hate to have to go through all this crap again.

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  9. Hands-down, my favorite, most horrifyingly informative, V-Day post, ever.

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  10. Well this is just a slice of hilarity with my morning coffee. My friend's husband is having his vasectomy reversed next week and because I'm an asshole, I want to share this with him today.

    ~Steph :)

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  11. this was hilarious, and I am glad I didn't see this before my vascectomy. It would have actually been impossible since I had mine done 6 months before you posted this.

    I remember the feelings of pain during the surgury, but it was more like a good squeeze on the boys, nothing so horrible as jumping. My doc wasn't all that conversational. But I didn't have any issues (I was lucky). I had a cavity filled the next month that was much worse. I would rather have another vasectomy (like mine) than have that damn needle of novicain in my gums for 5 minutes.

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    2. both of you are...(sigh) nvm

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  13. Wow. I don't feel so bad now, I thought I was the only one having issues. All my friends and family had it done, no issues. I was snipped in February. 4 separate incision infections. Lanced. More stitches. Now some mild chronic dull ache. I even get some pain in my pubic area after and sometimes during climax ! My urologist was surprised about tht bit of info. So I went for a CT scan yesterday of my lower abdomen and a testicular ultra sound because of a lump that has now formed on my right nut. The urologist said tht this is common among vasectomy patients. He didn't tell me tht before the operation. Can't wait to hear the results of the tests. I will keep u posted dadncharge

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    1. Thanks Bakerdude. I hope all is well now. It is kind of amazing how little they tell you about complications isn't it?

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    2. I didn't really have any problems with the op or recovery but I do have what I can only describe as miss fires. The sex is good and normal right up to climax but about 30% of the time I ejaculate but don't climax,kind of empty feeling. Very weird.
      I have thought about reversing the prosedure,anyone else?
      Ps very funny post dadn..

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  14. It's been 48 hours since my snip, and I'm actually surprised how well it's gone. I put it off for several years, then finally committed. Mine was a single frontal incision, took maybe 10 minutes. Worst part was the Valium- made me sweat profusely. Sounds crazy, but I've checked the pipes already and everything is working.

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    1. Glad to hear it went well for you. Sucks to be me huh? I just hope the pipes aren't "really" working if you know what I mean.

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    2. My man!! I was afraid to clear my pipes as I had my surgery on Friday. She better get ready for me to Share Gif: http://media1.giphy.com/media/grNJXIzYeNicU/200w.gif

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  15. It has been 1 year, 1 month since my snip. I experience a dull "Kick in the groin" ache all the time, which radiates up into my abdomen. Sex now is getting to be on the painful side, ( which this is coming from the most Ready Teddy guy there is), almost to the point it just aint worth it no more. Wish I had never done it.

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    1. I am experiencing the same results! I thought , cool, not having to worry about contraception, but I have had a soreness similar to being kicked in the groin for almost a year now as well as a major loss in sex drive! Thus vasectomy seems like the worst decision of my life!

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  16. Thank you for writing this post. I am actually writing my own post on this topic and appreciate your honesty. I am your newest blog follower!

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    1. Thanks Justin! I felt that guys needed to know that things don't alway go the way they are planned. I think I scared off many guys and their wives are probably ticked at me.

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    2. I think this is a public service announcement! Maybe someday I'll have the BALLS to write about my own experience. I have started writing it several times. How are things going for you now?

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  17. DadNCharge, I have my own post Vas story to tell. Still recovering, Only 2 weeks out now, but still feel pain down there. I found a few hard lumps yesterday and now I am worried about the sperm granulomas. The worst part though for me was the fact that my orgasm is now worthless. First time I had sex after the procedure was a huge disappointment. Now I am feeling at age 37 that I just ruined my sex life. I am pissed off that the literature the doctors provide all say there is no affect on orgasm. Worst lie ever. So angry and wish I had never done it.

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    1. Same here. Sex before was great, now my balls feel like they are literally un-involved in the entire process. Worst decision of my life. Sex now basically bores me, orgasm is so uneventful it is hardly worth working for.

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  18. wellll.... I begrudgingly shared this post with my husband because we are in the decision making process and I feel he should be fully informed of all possible risks involved... but gah! Now I'm going to have to look over other options because I think we are both scared of the big V now. heh :/

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    1. LOL. Sorry? That's what I had heard, that all these guys had not problems so I thought I wouldn't either. It's kind of like when your wife has a great pregnancy and you think well, if it is going to go smoothly then let's do it again and it doesn't turn out that way. For most men, it will go well without issue but I guess I and some others are the exception. My wife had a IUD in between kids which worked well but my mom swears they are not safe as she told me that my brother and I were both mistakes.

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    2. Please everyone post don't. Do it! Vasectomy should be banned it ruins marriages and ruins lives and the drs lie about all the after effects I want people to know that it is not something to be taken in consideration lightly it comes with big side effects most being an unhappy marriage due to the surgery wish my husband would have never had it done but he did cuz he was pushed by some nosey people who said he had to have it done since they think we have too many children already this is a personal choice and vasectomy needs to banned just like abortions

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    3. I just had it done two weeks ago today. Excruciating pain and swelling. Everything went well and seemed to be recovering, then a hemotoma started. Looks like my right side has a nut the size of a large tangerine, the hemotoma has swallowed it! Looks like now I'm going to be out of normal work patterns for over a month. Being self employed this is NUTS! I'm limping and can barely walk.

      Beware guys, how could you be the 2-5% that has major problems? You might be the one. At this point, I'm concerned when the pain is going to end and I can romp and play with my kids again. My wife is feeling pretty aweful that everything was just rainbow and kittens as her friend was saying (and encouraging her) it would be! Consider yourself warned. I'm glad you posted this and sorry I didn't find it until after my "rainbow and kitten" experience.

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  19. All I can say is Thank You for sharing this! This is something that is near to me at the moment! I know a person in vasectomy north carolinaif you want you can talk to him. THANK YOU

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  20. dude, sorry to hear about your problems! I had none at all...best decision ever...been raw dogging these hoes ever since with no worries. hope it clears up and take care.

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  21. i wish i woulda found this before i had mine done. I had mine done before the 500 race so may or so.. geezzz.. the freaking pain of the surgery they dont tell ya about, and the recovery is even worse. took 4 days off thinking it would be enough time, wrong. when you work in a snorkle lift and you hit those cracks in pavement and the lift goes one way and your junk goes the other.. you can figure out the feeling.. and now I almost kringe to have sex cause it hurts so freaking much.. I know your pain brotha.. thought there was just somethin wrong with me.. guess this is pretty common..

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    1. Some guys quickly recover with no issues and others, like us, have complications. You aren't alone for sure. Hope it is getting better.

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  22. I had the vas. 11 years ago. Im in so much pain on my right side it make me drop to my knees. Or sick. Theres little bumps around and a big one and if touched it hurts so bad. Im scared to death to go to doc. Im a iraq vet been through he'll and back just cant do anymore bad news. Any ideal...

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    1. Sorry to hear that. I would definitely see your doctor about it. Like I said in my post, The sperm granuloma is fairly common and can be treated with oral antibiotics and steroids in most cases. Although, I did read that sometimes they have to be surgically removed. If it is causing you so much pain, I would look into it before it gets worse. Good Luck!

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    2. Yeh go doctors

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  23. My husband is getting one as I'm writing this... I have to admit I thought it was pretty funny (most parts) I really hope he doesn't get all the bad stuff. But since he treats me like dirt, I'm looking forward to the pot holes! As for you I hope it gets better, you sound like an amazing father and husband good luck! ,

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    1. Yeah cause you're just sooo much classier right?!?

      Pot meet kettle, kettle meet pot!

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    2. Hey Iraq Vet! Hang in there, we made it thru yesterday and well
      Make it thru today. Hopefully we'll be super blessed with a tomorrow

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  25. Wow! I'm so happy my husband didn't experience any of those complications! We made the decision for him to havha his done after our second child turned 2 in 2000. Then in 2008 we realized we wanted more children and he had it reversed. The reversal worked fine, but then i was diagnosed with MS and breast cancer within 2 years of each other so more children were not in the plan afterall. This post has made me appreciate even more what he has gone through! We have been considering having a second vasectomy once he returns from a year long tour in Korea, but now, after reading this, we will certainly look into other options.

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  26. Worst decision of my life, honestly guys its not worth it. Constant dull ache, terrible orgasms, looking into reversal to get my life back to normal. Honestly you may scoff at it, if you are unlucky you will not be laughing with the end result which is basically end of the sex life as you know it. Added to this I have had constant infections, been probed and poked at by at least 15 - 20 doctors who insist that what you are experiencing does not exist

    Stick with the condoms, safer, reversable and may save your sanity.

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    1. Just to update, I am now free and clear of any complications. Gave up caffeine and most of the alcohol. That seems to help FYI.

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    2. Wish it would help. The infection side is gone, but the orgasm is now worthless. I can honestly say that I no longer trust surgeons or doctors either now. My sex life is basically finished unless a reversal can help.

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  27. had mine 1983 resulting no sex since what awaste lost everythink i am now living alone.

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    1. Sorry you haven't had sex since 1983, that's brutal.

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  28. Hey dad in charge, I just had mine done a week ago. I fear I am having a sperm granuloma it started "growing" on top of my right nut and now it has my whole sack swelled to the size of grapefruit! I am going back to my doctor tomorrow. I sure hope he can help. I really appreciate your sharing.
    scott

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  29. I should have read this and many other blogs before having mine done. I went in Monday 4/7 for my procedure. All went smooth. I had some lidocaine. The needles in the scrotum is the worse part. You are right that they try to distract you about talking about something else. Being a nurse my distraction was the conversation of the sports injury that split someones teste open like a coconut the day prior. Anyway, After the anesthesia kicked in all I felt was some tugging and pressure. He told me we were ready to start with the actual vasectomy and my heart sank. I thought if this was the feeling of only opening my coin purse I am in trouble, but it was a joke and he was finished. It was a bumpy ride home, but was uneventful. I work overnights on the weekends (Saves on daycare) so I went right to bed when I got home. I slept about 8 hours and was horrified when I woke up. I was walking like I was riding a horse. I peeled back the jock strap and wanted to cry. I have seen some swollen scrotums being a med/surg nurse. ( Grapefruit sized) i have never seen anything like mine. I was solid purple from as far down as I could see to about my abdomen and the right side was baseball sized. I found my discharge instructions and it said extensive bruising can be normal. I shrugged it off and strategically placed some ice around the family jewels. I took some painkillers and watched the family do their think until everyone went to sleep and I joined them. I woke up Tuesday morning swollen the size of a soft ball. I had both kids at home with me so it was a long day of avoiding getting stepped on in the man parts. That afternoon the pain had gotten so bad, that I called my urologist back and he told me to come in as soon as my wife got home from work. The welling had not increased anymore throughout the day, but walking was extremely difficult. I drove myself there and he saw me right away. Keep in mind he is a very good urologist and surgeon. He has done many procedures on my wife for her kidney stones. His first words to me is that he hasn't seen anything like this happen in about 25 years. I had a bleed and large hematoma on the right side. He told me to go home and he would call me at 0730 the next morning with an OR time to get it drained. This made my night. After I got home, probably from the manipulation my scrotum started getting bigger and I had intense bruising starting into my right thigh. I called his office back and they had me go to the Emergency room so I could get admitted to the hospital. This led to I.V antibiotics Tuesday night and lots of morphine. Morphine by the way makes you feel terrible, but does stop the pain for about an hour. I went to the Operating Room under genera anesthesia Wednesday morning. They had me open on the table five hours. They drained off 250mL of liquid blood and also a bunch of clots that were forming. I guess he clamped and stitched anything that was bleeding a little, but there was one spot that he couldn't find the bleed. He had another surgeon come in and he could also not find it so the used some clot forming powder. This meant he had to leave one of the incisions he made in my scrotum open with two penrose drains, so they would not have to open me back up if the bleeding started again. I was on bed rest all of Wednesday and Thursday. He took out the drains Friday, but left that incision open to heal on its own and to let any drainage come out. I came home Friday and have been pretty much couch bound and sore. The swelling is done a bunch, but the pain is awful. Hopefully the swelling and pain resolves within a week. So I can be somewhat normal. I just wanted to pass my story along to anyone thinking you are always good in two days and can function normally. One last thing. My nurse on the day shift was a friend of my from nursing school. I think she and I wore mortified every time she had to do the dressing change.

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    1. Ugh. I was cringing when reading your story. So sorry you had it so rough and hope all is healed up nicely now. It took some time to recover fully and now I am pretty much back to normal.

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  30. Sorry to hear of your swollen balls and the pain you went through. However you have such a cheery disposition towards it all. Th last line did bring a smile to my face. Great blog post.

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    1. Thanks Peter! My balls are OK now, as long as I have limited the caffeine, it seems to keep it in check and I got my groove back.

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  31. Very sad wife: can anyone tell me how we can all start an advacacy. For vasectomy don't do it so others can be warned everyone talks about this type as surgery as its nothing but it ruins lives my marriage has been extremely ruined my husband and I are both depressed and have been since the day of surgery which the year mark is coming up soon and I'm going to need some support I think to get through the day I feel like I will relive the feelings of that day and I'm worried of how I'm going to make it through but why doesn't anyone warn about side effects especially when it comes to ur sex life we had a great sex life be4 that's why we had so many kids now since surgery none somehow we have to team up and make these drs who r stupid and think these problems don't exist and create an awareness vasectomy means no sex life afterwards!

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  32. After I read that, I would not make vasectomy.

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  33. There is a bit of confirmation bias going on here. While 60% of men do experience granuloma, only 3% or so of those actually require any action to resolve themselves. As far as prostatitis, this is very common to men age 20 to 50. The NIH estimates that 25% of office visits of young and middle age men is due to prostatitis, and that 50% of men will deal with the issue at some point in their life. The meta-studies on vasectomies and cancer show no link to cancer after a vasectomy.

    What studies do show, and supported by my doctor (though his support is anecdotal), is most complications come from guys not following proper after care. Things such as too much activity too soon, taking NSAIDs too soon after, sex too soon, washing too vigorously, etc. While any procedure can have complications on their own, it is rare.

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    1. I went by the book because this was literally my first surgery ever. You seem to be implying that I was not properly caring for my balls like I should. As a stay at home dad, I was enjoying resting and icing and keeping things clean down there without overdoing it.

      Unfortunately, as with any surgery, there can be complications depending on how your body reacts to being operated on, the skill of the doctor and so forth. I was worried about prostate cancer because my father had it and was treated, detected early, so it was removed but often, the symptoms can be somewhat similar in nature so that is why I was concerned. I still think that 60% of men experiencing granuloma is pretty significant even if only 3% require any action to resolve them. I didn't have to surgically have it removed, the steroids seem to take care of it after three different tries. However, I think that while some guys go and have it done with no issues, there are not as many places where the complications have been discussed by real cases, which is why I felt this post was important.

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    2. wxrocks: my husband fallowed every single direction to the tee. And I know because I didn't want there to be "ANY" problems. There was no miss step on his part and he actually to extra time off and everything. His complications lasted for a good 6 months!! Fallowing directions does not guarantee no complications. After talking to many and searching many stories after it does not seem rare to have complications.

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    3. wxrocks, I normally don' post things but your post really caught my attention. You are either a female or a urologist yourself. The fact is that vasectomy does cause prostate issues and all other types of comlplications no matter whar you do after surgery. Its people like you with you numbers and statistical bullshit that cause all these problems for humanity. GFYS

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  34. I have dull pain as has been stated. I also experienced "shrinkage" of my testicles and penis. I completely regret the procedure at this point.

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    1. I've noticed my testies are smaller,
      I have a slight pain twds the end of my orgasm, feels like the psi is too much.
      Other than that the only regret is how the wife still wanted one more kId and now that she can't she wants it more.
      For me 6 kids (made four, other two are treated like mine) made the desicion easy for us.
      I'm gonna pray for all the men here that regret their V Day that their pain and suffering subsides

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  35. Yes with comment above shrinkage does happen and it has also happened to my husband along with poor ejaculation and less sex drive for both of us these are the things drs say don't exist well they are WRONG and need to inform the public about all the risks and agn as a wife who was opossed to the surgery to begin with but everyone pretty much forced my husband and made him feel like there was no other option I feel that vasectomy is taken lightly and it shouldn't and that it causes so many problems and causes marriages to break up and it has almost caused mine to break except for the fact we are looking to get it reversed now to try to correct the problems however we need the funds so if anyone knows where u can get funding even if we have to pay payments please post to me we need it this surgery reversal somebody please help us find the funding to end both of our misery we had the most wonderful sex and marriage life now it has all gone down hill and sometimes we have admitted to each other that we are now only together for the kids which is really sad cuz people who knew us before this surgery would tell u that they are the most happiest and loving couple we know vasectomy needs to be banned vasectomy ruins lives

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  36. In reply to wxrocks: this is not confirmation bias. Commenters aren't cherry picking facts; assuming people claiming to have undergone a vasectomy actually did have it, they are speaking after the fact and some are cautioning based on their experiences. The impression I get is that the wary commentators likely underwent the surgery with an expectation of low or minimal complications and were surprised by the outcome, as opposed to expecting significant complications and then saying "I told you so". (Realistically, why would so many men have undergone vasectomies if they felt that a large percentage of men experienced complications?) No one is claiming the outcome is always disastrous, fishing exclusively for bad outcomes, or negating the claims of those who had relatively uneventful vasectomies/aftercare. With the volume of men discussing their vasectomy related complications, it is worth asking if the currently cited complication rate is accurate or if it needs to be revised.

    The author of this article wrote about a study he read concerning a potential link between vasectomy and prostate cancer. It wasn't clear that he was making a scientific claim so much as he was relating his fear about potentially facing prostate cancer. Also, there is concern that prostatitis is overdiagnosed, as discussed by urologist Ira Sharlip. Without more info from Chris about his lab results, we can only take him at his word. If he had no fever, microorganisms, or elevated white blood cell count, his prostatitis would not have been bacterial and may not have been prostatitis at all. Dr. Sharlip notes that such a case may fit a diagnosis of urinary sphincter hypertonicity (USH), a condition that offers some explanation for the extremely frequent urination Chris described.

    Poor after care may contribute to some post vasectomy complications, but it is also possible that doctors don't like to admit mistakes (surprise!), or that different men with different vas deferens may be more susceptible to complications. Urologists do occasionally say they can't find the vas deferens- sometimes because it isn't there, sometimes because it's not located where they would expect it to be or is very small.

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  37. I am having the non-scalpel method done tomorrow and stumbled upon this blog from google. The irony here is that I'm 6'7 and 38 too, hopefully the similarities end there!

    BTW, you are a very talented writer.

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    1. Thanks! And I hope all goes well for you my fellow giant friend. Praying for your balls.

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  38. FYI....the no-scalpel is just a "sales Gimmick", while true they dont use a scalpel, they just plunge scissors into your yam bag. I had my snip on June 6th 2014, yesterday (July 4th) the last stich finally fell out. The worst part was waiting 10 days to pop off a load, other than that, all went well, was a tad sensitive for the first 2 weeks after, but that has all subsided. Next step is having to wait 3 months to get the all clear from analysis...best $1,200 ever spent!!! Just to throw it in ...I am a fellow tall guy, 6'5".....this must be a giant forum..=)...good luck to all in having the snip and even more luck to those with complications!!

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  39. Chris, thank you for starting this discussion. My name is Randy T, and I hope EVERYONE who reads this blog takes this information seriously. My Vesectomy was done by a Dr. in my family Dr. Suite. Complications were never discussed other than some swelling and discomfort. My first...yes...first...Vasectomy proceedure was a failure. I was swollen like a baseball with bruising. Swimmers still present when I provided a sample. During my SECOND proceedure, I felt a pain like some one stabbed an ice pick in me at my crotch and pushed it all the way up into my abdomen. I actually sat up and hollard out, the Dr. actually asked...did you feel somthing...I spent the next 9 days laying flat on my back, 2large hematoma's....blood clots...with blood seepage up to my abdomine and down to mid thigh. I was then referred to a Urologist who said...."what do you want me to do, your vasectomy is done.....". For the person who stated that this topic is just picking out the botched proceedures....the statistics are approx. 36% of vasectomies have complications and 7% to 10% end up with CHRONIC post vasectomy pain syndrome (pvps). Go to vasectomypain.org to find the studies I am quoting. I know of this information because I am in that 7% GROUP.

    I have spent 2 years researching this topic. It was nice to read Chris's comments with the humor and glad to read that he isdoing well......but the studies show that even reversals do not guarantee the pain will stop. After 6.5years of extreme pain after intimate moments with my wife the Urologist I saw before offered an additional proceedure to stop my pain, to ...as he stated, fix this once and foreall...BUT NOT ONCE did he say....there is a chance the proceedure could make it worse. Yep, you guessed it, now my pain is constant. You see, when a Dr. Cuts nerves and they call it Epiditimitis, and another Dr. Irritates those nerves that have been healing for 6 years, the nerves don't seem to heal as well the second time. I have lost my job working for the State of MI, I take time release Morphine twice a day and also take Norco to take care of the pain spikes from routine activities like shopping. I enjoy nothing because the more active I am, the more intense the pain, thus the more medication I take....or I have to lay down.. Laying is the only thing that seems to take the pressure off and allow me to be comfortable.

    They say Trust your Dr's but I can guaranteeyou will never hear a Urologist give ALL the possible side affects of the Vasectomy procedure. ?.it is their money maker, and that is called UNINFORMED CONSENT.....when the patient agrees to a proceedure when the patient does not have all the facts. The Law is on the Dr. S side too. Do your research, ask all the questions don't trust like I did. MOST OF ALL...TELL EVERYONE YOU KNOW ABOUT THIS BLOG. It may just ....SAVE....someones life.

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  40. I have to show this to the hubby. About 2 years ago his doc said "don't do it" because of his occasional discomfort due to an obstructed/twisted vas deferens (from lifting weights years ago). I'm not willing to do hormones anymore. FYI: The Mirena IUD should be banned! He is considering going back for a second consult. I don't want him to bother. Many docs do not believe in the side effects and fail to inform.

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  41. Had a NSV done 4 years ago. Went perfect, quick recovery and enhanced sex! Until now...
    Been having pain in my left nut, looks like a granuloma, feels like I'm getting kicked in the balls especially when touched. Been researching and it looks like even if you have a successful one you can have issues YEARS later.. this was not disclosed when I had one done. Wish I had never done it I am just hoping and praying this pain goes away or my life will be ruined. DO NOT get one no matter what your doctors or friends say! Issues can happen years later and there are other possible reactions that can happen! Now I will be looking over my shoulder just waiting for another foot to drop.. added anxiety and stress aren't something we need in this life. @chris are you still feeling good? any other issues?

    Its not worth it guys!!!

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  42. I had my vasectomy procedure done 7 months ago. I never had any health issues previously, until the procedure was done. I immediately had a sharp pain, all in my lower abdomen area. A few days later, I had a rash in the area of the incision which turned out to be a staph infection. Turns out, staph normally lives on your skin, especially in the nostrils and groin area which is something a urologist won't remind you until after the fact. A month later, I start urinating every hour or so and dropping weight like crazy. The urologist said it was prostatitis and it should go away with antibiotics. I was placed on antibiotics which didn't resolve the problem and still hasnt. After researching, I found vasectomys are linked to immune responses which could affect you now or later. Furthermore, before you let a doctor cut into your sack, ensure you ask the doctor about possible immune system reactions and staph bacteria on your sack. Those are two things they don't talk about in their educational literature. I should have never gone through with it.

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  43. 13 hours after V, laying heremy wife snoring a foot from me. Never saw this blog while I researched initially. Ice is my new best friend. Hoping everyone heals up (including myself). Thank you for this post. Will be sharing this information. Best....JJ

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  44. Hi Guys I had a vasectomy on the 23rd of October 1992, I can honestly say I have been to hell and back, 23 years later I am still having problems with pain, the ejaculation is less and the feeling that you had before the procedure never returns, as you age the quantity is even less, I also believe that the Dr,s lie about it because they see it as a cash cow, it was the biggest regret of my life not because I wanted more kids, but because it robbed me of awesome sex.

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  45. Hey....writing this as my husband (who has meters of metal through his body from numerous breaks and bones popping through skin..so he knows about pain)...is curled up in a ball in the bedroom in agony from this op which we were told he would recover from quickly and that he could go back to work today...which he couldn't. He had the big snip 5 days ago. Feel sick reading this now...after the event...as we too were not warned of this.
    I hope he doesn't go through what you and others have but he is saying he has a pain in stomach and groin area. Do you think maybe he just needs to clear the pipes or should I get him his own bag of peas or both? He said the hot shower helps a bit so hadn't thought of applying cold! Has anyone that didn't go through the worst also felt like this after? Thanks in advance for any tips...

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    1. Check for infection the pain in the stomach is not a norm, pain is mainly in the ball area. sorry to read of this, ice relieves some of the pain, the pain in the scrotal area is in the balls themselves it won't be relieved by release as the sperm can't get out, vasectomy is not the best solution as I found out.

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    2. Antibiotics seemed to help so infection must have been the cause. He still took a few weeks to stop walking like a cowboy as was in heaps of pain downstairs and said a couple of days recovery is total BS. Thankfully he is is all back to normal now ☺

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  46. Ban vasectomies? Sure. Right after we ban birth control pills and vaginal birth. Because both of those things have massive impacts on your sex drive, orgasm and sexual experience. But that doesn't directly impacts dudes so no one cares, right?

    My husband is recovering from his vasectomy and it has been brutal. I feel bad for the poor guy but he freely offered when I told him Id get an IUD. He is a good man.

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  47. Thank you so much for the wonderful information .This is really important for me .I am searching this kind of information from a long time and finally got it.

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  48. URGENT PLEASE RESPOND AS SOON AS POSSIBLE LOL... IM WAITING ON THE GREEN LIGHT TO PROVIDE AS WE SPEAK!!!

    Sorry u had the bad experience...i hope all is well I had vasectomy exactly 48 hrs ago... Everything feels fine... Just a lil sore... Can I.give me wife some of this loving now??

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  49. So I'm 34 and just had a vasectomy 3 weeks ago. So far so good on long term side effects.. But I had a peculiar vasectomy. I could feel everything. It was horrible, like being tortured. The lidocaine seemed like it did nothing. I've gone through some serious agony with a blown out knee, but I think I would opt for that over laying on that bed again. Anyone else have the anesthesia not do anything ?!

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  50. I would be carefull in reading these posts, there is nothing to verify the experiences, the people with problems should be looking on posts that resolve their issues not complaining about their problems.

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    1. F U what do you want documentation??? pictures ?? doctors notes?? come on ....and he was NOT complaining I believe he was funny and took it well and he didnt say dont do it.. or you will regret it, he simply was stating his experience.. so shut your mouth..it was a good read and I'm a woman. you should be careful what you read on signs symptoms and possible diagnosis you type in pain in big toe and 500 different disorders pop up!

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  51. took it like a man!!! and you still have humor which is excellent and ya 3 kids, good enough I have 5

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  52. First of all, really sorry to hear about your experiences. Secondly, I wanted to extend my gratitude for this article. I was considering vasectomy - nay, I had booked time for it - but your article (among others) truly convinced me I should not go through it. The factual information is available elsewhere, but your article was the final drop that tilted the scale for me. You see (I swear, I'm not making this up), I'm a teacher, a semi-pro photographer, my name is Chris, I'm 38 years old. Oh, and I'm addicted to coffee. Reading your article was a giant "hi, this is the universe, I'm trying to tell you something" sign, with flashing neon lights around it. Thank you. Hopefully things are better for you nowadays.

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  53. Bridgette Raes Style

    i like this post very much . Thanks for sharing such a great post

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  54. That dam Vasectomy should be outlawed, made illegal for Doctors to perform, it ruined my sex life, Pain all the time, ruined the past 20 years of my life and counting.
    Anyone thinking about it (or wife wants you to do it like my once upon a time wife who dumped me for what it did), you will be sorry if you end up like I did. Believe me, don't do it!

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  55. I agree with you I don't have sex anymore because the pain always took my erection away, its barbaric for women to expect their partners to go through with it, my wife the also decided that she wanted another baby and she wanted it, needless to say she found another guy to share her life, I think they should be banned I read an article the other day that 15% of men who get sterilized live with pain after, no Dr mentioned that to me before I was led by my wife to the butcher.

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    1. Barbaric? While I feel bad for the pain this has caused you (and other men), I have to question the mere idea that you think it's barbaric for a woman to ask a man to have a vasectomy. A woman's sterilization is considerably more painful, and has SO many more risks. When weighing either option, the V is clearly the least costly, in terms of actual money AND time/pain. For anyone looking to get a V procedure done, I would advise doing very careful research into the doctors available to you, and speak to real patients who have undergone these procedures with these very doctors. Find the ones with the most successful cases.

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  56. I've read all the stories and I feel for everyone here and thank you for sharing your experiences. I just today, had the v conversation with my husband. I am not up to a tubal bcuz ivd been thru so much already. I figure the least he could do is look into it. I've delivered 3 boys vaginally 2 without pain meds in a birthing center and had third degree tears resulting in rows of stitches down there 3 times. With our third son I had more complications passing a 7 lb blood clot right after delivery so you all know I was sing the its not fair song. Now I know that it is a bad idea for husband to get snipped. I don't want to see my best friend in the whole world suffer.
    Thank you gentlemen for sharing such sensitive info.

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  57. I'm trying to figure out if this pain is what I've been having for the past year and a half...

    I had my vasectomy 8 years ago after my wife almost died on the delivery table from a ruptured uterus during the VBAC delivery of our fourth child. IN the operating room just after putting her back together and stabilizing her, the attending physician said to me, "Your wife can't have any more children. We nearly lost her and what's left of he uterus won't carry a child to term. Either she or you will have to have their tubes tied." I asked him if he could do it while she was still onthe table and he said he COULD, but WOULDN'T because he didn't have a signed consent form PRE-OP! She went in to deliver a baby and ended up on an emergency table. OF COURSE We didn't sign a consent to tie her tubes "pre-op!"

    Anyway, that meant it was up to me to get the snip done. I said, OK because according to the general attitude of soceity, the available information the assurances of my OWN DAD, who was a physician and of his colleague who would become my urologist, there were so few complications that it was negligible and MUCH safer than going back in on my wife. Also, I didn't WANT more kids. I was just fine with an even four.

    Then, 7 years later, I suddenly get a sort of sharp, sort of dull pain in my lower left front about 5" above my crotch. It feels like what I THOUGHT might be a hernia, or something connected to my bowels. Occasionally, I've had a soreness from the vasectomy, but nothing awful, and even through this dull ache, I kind of felt that too, but so subtle I didn't connect it. I went in to see a highly respected internal medicine doctor and he sends me off thinking it is Irritable Bowel Syndrome and tells me to lay off of common foods and drink one at a time until I notice a difference. I stopped coffee and right away it all went POOF! Gone! So now I'm pretty happy and go perfectly pain free for almost 9 months. I started to sneak coffee back into my diet and no problems... or so I thought.

    Suddenly at almost the EXACT same week of the year, a year after the first bout of pain, it comes back! I start to do the same regimen of cutting foods again to see if I can figure it out, but nothing works. THIS TIME however, the dull ache in the lower abdomen is associated with a sharp pin-prick pain on the top of the left testicle. I've been worrying about what it could be and rather nursing things down there ever since. I am FINALLY going back to my GP Doctor in about two weeks, thinking it MUST be cancer or another dreadful thing, but now I read this blog and I'm thinking, Hmmm... just maybe? I never connected the two pains so much, but this time I realized that it was right in the site of the cut that my testicle hurts. It got me looking at least. I sort of hope it is post vasectomy pain because if it doesn't get any worse and ISN'T cancer, then at least I get to survive!

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  58. Hi! Sorry to hear about what you've been through. Grateful your wife is doing well. When you go back to the doctor be aggressive and persistent and get the info you need for your complication. A lot of these doctors are quick to diagnose but not quick to listen to their patients. For encouragement remember that you pay them to meet your health needs. Make sure you get the care you need. No matter what thwy tell you, if you leave with the gut feeling something is not right make that doctor fins out what is really wrong. No matter what. You will leave with peace of mind and a solution to your pain.

    I will pray for you. Please leave an update.
    God Bless!

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  59. I have the same thing going on these doctors had to know that this would happen. I hate I had this done.

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  60. Oh my gosh! If I had just known what it would have been like after. The surgery went fine, but after painful swelling, two infections in my testicles (balls the size of elephant nuts), and now hypogonadism (low testosterone). Go the condom route, take the tubal ligation with the last birth, or just keep having kids. Stay away from a vasectomy. It truly was a mistake (not choosing not to have kids, but the medical complications). And while it sucks about the pain with ejaculation (which I have experienced, but thought it wasn't related.. lol, guess that is another one) the low testosterone from age 32 to 38 friggin destroyed me until I was diagnosed and treated. Talk about a low quality of life and sapping of hope and dreams. Amazingly enough after being treated for several years I am back to my old self; sad thing is I had forgotten how different it had been until I was back.

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  61. Had my vas yesterday and it was way worse than expected. Much more pain and humiliation than I was ready for. Pretty ridiculous they don't have a better way of doing this.

    A young female nurse has me get naked and lay on a table and put my legs up in stirrups. So, I'm naked with my a-hole and balls right in her face. I'm thinking is this really necessary?? She washes me down and scrubs that yellow crap all over me and all over my penis and balls. Oh and by the way, much shrinkage too. I felt horrible.
    Then I sit there for a full 5 minutes like this while we wait for the doctor. He comes in and takes his sweet time getting washed up and dressed. Another 5 minutes at least. This whole time I'm sitting in this stirrup table/chair with my goods on display to both of them. Finally he comes over and get to work. I don't know why but it felt like he was squeezing my right testie. I squirmed all over. Finally the injection, OUCH! A few times too. I thought this was a semi painless procedure. Wrong. Lots of squirming and being uncomfortable for a good ten minutes. I think he is done but no, he says time for the other side. Same thing again but this time worse. I arched my back pretty good at least 3 times on that one. I was hating life at this point.
    The whole time the nurse is watching over the doc's shoulder. What fun.

    I was not prepared for this to be anywhere as bad as it was. Probably a good thing too. I was nervous for the whole week prior but kept telling myself it wouldn't really be as bad as I was thinking it would be. Well, it was bad. Glad it's over. Had I known this was the way they were going to do it I may have asked to be
    'put out' for it.
    Other friends of mine that had this said it was pretty painless and simple, 10 minutes and no nurse to assist. Not my doctor's office. What hell it was.
    Humiliating is a good way to describe my experience along with painful. I do think I have more sensitive testicals than others but still, this seemed ridiculous the amount of pain I was feeling in my balls. Why would the doc be squeezing my balls?

    I really hope there are no complications because I can't endure this kind of thing again.

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  62. I have a vasectomy scheduled for 11 days from now (Friday, March 13). I'm 37 and have 3 young children and after reading every single comment, I'm probably going to cancel and just risk having more kids. It's just not worth it considering the anecdotal evidence here. My wife is fine with whatever I choose so luckily don't have anyone pushing me in to doing it. I've been on the "what if I want more kids" fence since I scheduled the procedure but this puts me on an entirely different fence. Coincidentally, my urologist is Dr. Gentile.

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  63. very wise man, I have experienced the pain, its like tooth ache that won't give up, read the article on the net, : Identifying the cause of testicular pain.

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  64. Hey everyone, I'm a 36 year old bloke, just had the big V done today. Done in the doctors (urologist) rooms under local anaesthetic. Heard plenty of good and bad stories, mainly about post-op complications, but not much about what actually happens on the day, apart from what the doc wants you to hear ie 'you'll hardly notice it', and 'you'll be good as gold in a couple of days'. I hope the second part comes true, because the first part is complete bullshit! The procedure hurts like a bastard, I have a high pain threshold having played sport for years and suffered many injuries including broken bones and stitches - but this was (and still is) a joke! I can deal with the embarrassment of my junk being manipulated with the med student in the room, but the pain is real, friends. First there's some cold liquid splashed everywhere (runs down to your hoop), then after a minute, some sort of bullshit clamp applied to your ball or your vas or something, which feels like your ball is squeezed so hard it could burst. (Queue immediate sensation of being kicked in the balls). The following anaesthetic injection in your bag is not like any other - it's a deadset C. Doesn't just go in, it's moved around and pushed all over the place, feeling like you've had a dozen injections. Then there's a cut which feels about the same as the needle. Then, pulling your vas out the hole increases the kicked in the halls pain enough to make you have to fight not to get in the foetal position. To make matters worse, you feel every bit of the scissors on your vas and cutting the tube... Then some suture string to tie up your loose vas ends. Then, it's onto the other side to go again. After it's done, you put yourself together and head (gingerly, like a cowboy) out to the car, all of a sudden the sack feels like it's been stabbed and lemon or vinegar poured into the holes... Any movement or tensing of the abdomen intensifies the pain (ie car accelerating, cornering, braking). Home and on the couch horizontal with a bag of peas on the plums (on again off again). The balls still feel ordinary several hours later - so my message to you is don't listen to the bullshit about 'you'll hardly notice it', either be ready and take the pain, or go under if you want to avoid feeling it all happen... I can't speak for the after effects because it's too early, but watch this space. PS I reckon I've felt worse pain (eg root canals), but like any bloke knows, pain associated with the balls is unlike any other kind of pain

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  65. Had my V in Oct 2012. Disaster. Ended up with PVPS immediately. Further surgery in Oct 2013 for an epdidymectomy. Little relief for pain.

    During 2014 noticed poor errection. Finally got doctors to test my testosterone and it was 1/3 of the correct level (20 nmol in UK).

    More tests same result. I'm now on replacement therapy and I am still in agony every day. So I've vesical got two useless and painful balls.

    The veterinary surgeon could have done a better castration.

    Don't do it. You can't stop the pain.

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  66. Love the openness and honesty here. Thanks for sharing. I have lots to think about before going under the knife. I hope that the recurring issues have diminished over time. If not, hope that Rx is still valid ;)

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  67. I am going for a couple consultation, is there something I should be looking for in a Doc? Or should I just run like hell?

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    1. Not sure what to tell you Chad, maybe soft hands? My complications weren't a result of the doctor as the procedure is basically the same. Good luck!

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  68. Just had my vasectomy two days ago and I feel fine. But I used mixed veggies. I think that's where you went wrong. You boxed yourself in by limiting your frozen pain relief to one vegetable. I feel like it was the little carrot squares that helped the most. Hopefully your experience and all the ones from the comments took up the rest of that 60% so I don't have to experience it. I kinda like my ejaculations as they are. Anyway, thanks for sharing. I'm not so sure a "good luck" is the right thing to say, but I don't really know what else to say. Good luck.

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  69. 30 hours post op. No swelling, no drainage, no discoloring. Frozen Peas awesome. Procedure was just as described: anesthesia stick at a high location above the Vas surgical site. Was told and did experience a pain similar to getting a nut tap that went up into belly. Gone after 1 second. Second injection at the incision site with little Novocaine burning, but lasted 3 seconds. Procedure uneventful. At home with feet up feeling like I actually am justified in time off for a change and can relax! 3 day off doctor note. Showered with jockey shorts on to protect the site, then took off and gentle clean after. Made sure to put bacitracin on. I am very excited about it in these terms: I cannot be made to "accidentally be a father" as is what happened to me despite precautions many years ago. BTW, 10 years ago in the military, if you wanted to do this and you were married, they made your wife sign a consent form! Imagine that! Men have nothing to say about any part of a woman's decision making in a pregnancy...but in our screwed up society, he needs HER permission to do what he wants with HIS body. They stopped this a few years ago because they represented a policy as an absolute law and people finally complained. Anyway, I am looking ahead and feeling like I made a great decision. I wish all who have trouble a smoother recovery.

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    1. I had the exact same experience a week ago ... I think it all comes down to the doctor and what you do afterwards personally ... I have had, literally, zero pain except for a little burning right after on the car ride home - once I started with he peas I never felt a thing - and I still got I stanza the bonners when my girlfriend kissed me ... hope everyone gets their issues resolved!

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  70. Thanks for elaborating on the risks of vasectomy in such an hilarious way. Cheers from Brazil!

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  71. My husband had a vasectomy nearly 3 months ago and still suffers from a constant ache. He is super depressed. I want to support him in every way I can, but sometimes I'm not sure how. I am looking for a little advice, especially from the men who had complications. He is pretty adamant about not getting a reversal. Do I encourage him to keep going back to his doctor over and over? Do I let him process on his own and just stay by his side? Sometimes I read the stories about guys improving after several months and I am hopeful, then I read the stories of those who never improve. I almost want to show him this blog, but I'm not sure if it would make him feel better or worse as he is super worried that it will never get better (and that is totally justified). He is frustrated at his decision to do it in the first place and totally regrets it, but I wish he wouldn't beat himself up over that since he was fed the party line like everyone else and was not really lead to believe there was much risk at all of complications. Besides the possibility of a life of pain, he is also super depressed that he can't ride a bike which is a HUGE thing for him. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Sad wife.

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    1. Dear Sad Wife,
      I'm sorry to hear about your husband. Don't bother with a reversal, he can get through this with your help. Like I said in the post, I had that dull ache and even painful ejaculation at times. I had to go back to the urologist over and over to make sure I was okay. I would stick with them, as they seemed to help me. Like I said, in my case, cutting out excessive caffeine helped. The bike thing, he'll get back to eventually but at the present, he needs time for it to heal. Tell him that I get it, and I hope that they can figure out what is wrong. I seem to have my complications under control now and don't experience the pain etc.

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    2. This is the husband of "sad wife". Still struggling with my post-vasectomy pain. Just curious about what your Urologist said or did to help you get through your discomfort. It's been 3 months since my surgery and both my balls are still tender and painful. My urologist told me to give it another couple months and if things still aren't better I should think about drugs and/or a reversal....two things that I DO NOT want to consider. So I'm curious about another perspective AND I'm also curious as to how long it took YOU to recover. You said that you are now pain-free (I'm super-jealous) and I'm curious as to how long it took you to get to that state. Any insight would be much appreciated...

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    3. Did it ever get better? Six weeks out and sore on one side. Now the urologist has recommended a week of ibuprofen to reduce possible inflammation at the vas site. I'm hoping it subsides of course...

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  72. A million thanks for sharing your story, it has impacted my point of view on vasectomy that I would not ever consider it an option anymore. I guess abstinence it is.

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  73. I just had my vasectomy a few days ago it feels like I've had blue balls ever since swelling discomfort when I need to get up I have to take care of my 4 month old so relaxing sitting back is not really an option I move around a little if necessary but like I said a four month old. Doesn't give me much options this has been an eye opener I had no problem going in pain is not an issue for me discomfort on Blue Balls is cuz all men know can't really do much for that pain so had a great sense of humor everything went well had a new female nurse come in and join everything was cold but we had a good time jokes and that was it drove myself home have my baby with me and my son and now with his birthday party behind us and finally relax for 2 days before I have to go back to work I'm just hoping this goes away soon anybody else know how to get rid of that blue balls feeling not a fan of painkillers the stuff they gave me seems to do nothing so I guess I walk funny tell it goes away and my job requires a lot of walking around 10 miles a day I have clocked in on my watch

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  74. I am so glad I read this today. I have three children, with the first one I got induced my second one was a c section and the third was vaginal with no pain med. I've been through three different kinds of pain. I told my husband we have more than enough with the three that we have and told him to get a vasectomy done. He told me he would think about it, so it has been a week that we started talking about it. But this morning after reading this I emailed him and told him that I just loved him so so much that I wasn't going to make him go through all that. So now we need to look for other options.
    Thanks a lot for sharing all your experiences.

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  75. Had my procedure done today. So much for painless. The first incision was not bad but the anesthetic did not take. It was so painful I threw up right on the bed. I have been active in sorts of activities all my life. Broken bones surgery, have had serious pain. My wife has actually been upset with me n the past for not going to the dr when I broke my hand and I didn't want to go to the hospital. 3 weeks later after X-rays it was broke. I have never felt pain like I experienced with this procedure. The Dr stated he has never had someone go through that much agony so it may be a isolated case. What gets me is I was so unprepared that it would be that painful. I was ok with the needles and incision but as soon as he pulled the in the VAS area I immediately vomited. The second side was pretty much painless. I think guys are less likely to complain but if this helps one guy to mentally prepare I guess it's worth it. One side uneventful and the other was the most painful thing I've ever experienced.

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  76. I had my vasectomy this past Monday and have been miserable since. I followed the guidelines with rest, ice etc. for 2 1/2 days. Went to work on Thursday and still had pain in my groin, and by that afternoon I was feeling very feverish. Got home checked by temp and it was okay, but had pain radiating down the inside of my left leg. By Friday I was in a lot of pain with fever. I was also suffering from a lot of pain in my lower back. I pretty much just felt like crap. I called the Dr. office told them the symptoms, etc. and they said to come right in. After getting there and waiting a while the Dr. came in did a quick examination and said that I have epididymitis. Prescribed some antibiotics for a two week treatment. I was told this is an infection on my left testicle and the antibiotic should clear it up. He said that he does 2 or 3 vasectomies a week and on average has one case a year of this infection.....lucky me. That night I was in severe pain and the pain in my back and groin area was very intense. The next morning (Saturday) I woke up and my whole body ached. I felt like I had the flu. As the day went on I felt a little better with the pain being more centralized in my left testicle. I could actually touch it and only experience mild pain compared to the extreme pain a day before. Now today, Sunday I am in a lot of pain. I feel like I have been kicked in the nuts and every step makes my stomach cramp. I am to the point right now that I am ready to do a reversal. It has only been 7 days and I am regretting this decision so much. I signed a consent form and the complications were listed, but I still feel like my wife and I were misled concerning this procedure. I have auto-immune issues and my body is very sensitive to any changes. I am wondering since my semen has no where to go if I am having an immune triggered response with antibodies from the sperm? My wife feels horrible because of the pain I'm in. I know a lot of people that have had vasectomies, and none have had complications like this. Regrets in life, this tops them all.

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    1. Update, went back to the Dr. today as I am still in a lot of pain. I had to get the prostate checked and it hurt! I felt like I was shooting fire out of a place that should only shoot liquid! My Dr. says that I have Prostatitis along with epididymitis. The Bactrim I was on isn't powerful enough for the Prostate so I am now taking Cipro for 6 weeks. I am allergic to Levaquin (a cousin to Cipro) so am carrying around my Epipen wherever I go. I have taken one pill and so far so good, so hopefully this clears up my pain and other issues. I am allergic to caffeine so I can't eat/drink anything with it. The Dr. did tell me to stay off of it. The Dr. said that it is possible that I've had a Prostate infection lingering in the background that wasn't showing any symptoms and the Vasectomy was the catalyst. Hopefully the medicine won't have to bad of side effects and I am pain free soon! I will update my progress as I have found this blog very informative and the OP's situation seems to be similar to mine. I read elsewhere that bigger men have more issues with Vasectomies. Who knows I am 6'3" and a few other posters are taller than me, so I suppose it is possible for the 4% or so that have complications. If I had it to do over again I WOULD NOT have gotten a Vasectomy. Now I just hope I get my symptoms resolved and back to better quality of life.

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    2. Update one week later. Still in some pain and continue to take the antibiotics, have three weeks left for them. If I do physical work with any lifting I get pain in my testicles, lower stomach, and lower back. It will probably take a while for the pain to go completely away, but at rest I don't have much if any pain. Good news is the "drive" is back and normal. I was very worried the first time as I thought it would be painful. It wasn't to bad and better since. What an experience.......

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    3. November 20 and I am in still in pain. Just got back from the Urologist and I still am suffering from epididymitis. Pretty bad pain started this past Tuesday, and I thought it was Sperm Granuloma as I felt a few pea to marble size bumps down south. The Dr. wasn't concerned about that, more concerned with the swelling of my testicles. I still have a week and three days of Cipro left to take and have now been prescribed an anti-inflammatory medicine. I can't take Advil, etc. as it causes stomach bleeding. I have taken Celebrux in the past with minor side effects so that's what I will be doing. This is VERY frustrating. I felt fine before the medical procedure and really wish I would not have had it done. I feel like for difficult cases like myself and others that have posted here the Dr's really don't know why we have difficulty when the majority of men have no issues. I feel bad for my wife as I could tell when I called here after the appt. that she feels terrible that I had this done. Maybe or Probably I shouldn't have as my body is very sensitive to change as I have some auto-immune issues. We have talked it over several times before and after and feel it was the right decision. My wife had complications on a former BC and it screwed up her thyroid. Fortunately it corrected itself and she switched to the "pill" The pill is no better for long term use so we had to do something. A vasectomy seemed like the best answer. Hopefully these complications will soon be a distant bad memory. If not I see no other choice that to get a reversal, I will not try any other alternatives if the medicine and time doesn't clear this up. So very frustrating........

      DanNCharge, How long did it take for your issues to clear up and be pain free?

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  77. After reading everyone's comments...I am TERRIFIED to let my husband get his V next week!! I am going to have to show him this entire thread so he won't go through with it. I'd much rather practice safe sex than get NO sex at all the rest of my life! Thanks for posting. I can't tell you how much I appreciate everyone's honesty and openness about this very intimate and private matter. Thank you.

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    1. You're a good wife to let him know. I just had it done last Friday (today is Tuesday), and I already think this might be the worst decision of my life (and unfortunately, I've made some bad choices).

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  78. My girlfriend told me some bull that even I know is lies of why she doesn't want kids all the sudden and how I should get one since it will save money

    I am really attached to her, she is the most important thing in the world to me and I honestly believe in if you loved them once you can love them again

    But I am almost ready to break up over this
    And our 1 year is in just a few days

    It better be a fase

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  79. Man that was scary reading through these posts. Sorry to hear about the severe cases. After 3 kids and several half serious conversations with my wife I decided to have mine done 2 weeks ago. The procedure just plain sucked and really does feel like someone is ripping your guts out from your stomach through your unmentionables......not to mention the 10-15 minutes of getting kicked in the balls hard. Maybe people respond differently to local anesthetic. I'm a little worried because I still have a full ache in my stomach which mimics the same spot of the pain after the procedure. No other issues though so I have my fingers crossed this pain will subside. My recommendation to the other guys out there is......good luck. There is no way to recommend something with such a broad range of results. Its a roll of the dice so if you don't mind either getting pregnant or using other forms of birth control...don't do it. My wife and I had to stop having kids so we can plan a dang ole retirement.

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  80. Could I possibly ask if anyone here has experiences vague abdominal pressure accompanied with constipation and weight loss after vasectomy? All these symptoms started after my husband's vasectomy and he has had an extensive GI work up to find out there is "nothing" wrong. I'm trying now to see if his vasectomy somehow may be the root of his symptoms.

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  81. I'm almost in tears reading this blog. My fiance had his V day the day after Father's day this year. Now 6 months later, he's still got groin pain, painful ejaculations, and Last night was the first time we'd had sex in over 6 weeks. We have a great relationship and sex isn't everything, but the fact that he's in pain, and avoids showing affection or giving intimacy at all because he doesn't want to cause himself anymore pain is... words can't describe it.
    I"m an LMT and I thought, okay, maybe it's just muscle pain, and if I massage the muscles, maybe it would help... haven't yet, but looking up info and researching is how I came across this blog. I'm gonna suggest backing off on the Caffiene, he's addicted to it -- not kidding -- and hopefully it helps. Thanks for the blog, DadNCharge.

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    1. Sorry to hear that Jordan. Glad my blog could help in some way. The pain is the worst part because that's something you just shouldn't be feeling when you are intimate with someone. Hope the caffeine abstinence helps

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  82. Damn, I wish I would've read this 3 days ago.......before my snipping. Now I sit here in pain and fear, while being amused as well....

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  83. Thanks so much for this info! I'm 43-years-old and I WAS thinking about getting a vasectomy (I actually scheduled the initial consultation yesterday--which I'm going to cancel). You, sir, ROCK! And you are a very entertaining writer, as well. I have enough problems without adding to them by getting my balls tortured.

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    1. Knowing what I know now, I still would have done it. In most cases it goes as planned but I just wanted people to know that it isn't just foolproof.

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  84. DadnCharge, how are things now since this post? Just had my V done in December. Developed a mass but doc wasn't worried. It's about 85% smaller than it was and luckily no pain. Just curious how yours is doing?

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    1. I'm perfectly fine and healthy. I still stay away from the caffeine as it tends to flare up if I overdo it.

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  85. Just wondering, how long did your granuloma last? Does anyone know how long they typically last?

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    1. Mine lasted about a month before the pain and swelling subsided. It took a few rounds of steroids to calm it down and the antibiotics to knock it out

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  86. Update: About 3 1/2 months later after my V and complications and I am still on the mend. My testicles are pretty much pain free now, but I am still suffering from Prostatitis (enlarged prostate). The pain is bearable now and it will flare up, but the pain is minimal compared to what it was. I take 3 or 4 Prostate pills a day. They have saw palmetto, pumpkin seed, zinc, and other ingredients that are good for the Prostate. My Dr. said to take a zinc supplement for the rest of my life. Everything else is normal as before so that's good. I still don't think I would have had it done had I known this is what would have happened. It is nice to not have to worry about an unplanned pregnancy at my age so it was probably for the best, and I am a firm believer that long term use of the pill by women is not good. A vasectomy is the best solution even with the rare complications that some of us have suffered.

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  87. Did you get steroid shots or did you do pills to get rid of your granuloma? Also, did it fully go away to where you can't feel anything down there? Or did it just reduce in size?

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  88. Glad you wrote this. A lot.
    I hadn't heard a single negative story about the op at all.
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  89. Was your hubby very sharp before procedure. I could tell mine was very uneasy yet he was so mean. He said if I came he wouldn't allow me to come in and wait with him. Afterwards he seemed ok but we aren't really talking. We have been married for almost 16 years. I can't believe how he has been over this. Due to health problems my dr recommended him to get vasectomy after our fourth child. He agreed. Three years later and a huge scare he did it. But I got appt for him and I pretty much gave him no choice. I don't know if your hubs acted different towards you but mine has and it not something I think we can get past. Any insight. Are y'all back on track.

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  90. Wow... thank you to everyone who shared their personal experiences. Caused me to do some additional research. It's worrisome that Post-Vasectomy Pain Syndrome (PVPS) that can develop months or years after vasectomy.

    The incidence of PVPS in post-vasectomy surveys varies widely but symptoms persist longer than 3 months in 15-20% of men and can become chronic. The available studies indicate that 1-5% of men are severely affected and report pain during sex or pain affecting quality of life.

    It seems that you can do everything right and still be in the 1% to 5% who will experience PVPS.

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  91. Had mine reversed with Dr. David Wilson in Oklahoma. He got everything working again. The guy is a God send. He does a low cost procedure and is the best at what he does. I flew from Jersey to OK just to see him. Best decision I ever made. The vasectomy ruined me also. Sex was horrible, almost non existent. Erectile dysfunction, No sex drive Constant dull pain, impotence, granulomas and all my idiot urologist could do was lie to me and tell me it was all in my head. People, let this be a lesson. If you want to get through this life o.k. never trust doctors, scientists, or you government. They all have their own agenda and hide the truth for their benefit. Research everything. Oh and if you decide to contact Dr. Wilson he is a very religious man and does what he does for people that want more children. So you might not want to mention the pain and other health issues you are having. I initially didn't want another child but ended up having another anyway. She happens to be the light of m y life these days! I have no regrets!

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  92. Wow this sounds like many men have adverse symptoms and seems that tubal ligation may be the best route even though its more costly and invasive.I'm the wifey and was looking for every excuse to get him to get his snipped versus me but I would never put my husband through any of these symptoms. So glad I read your post and definitely will not push the issue anymore. Our sex life is very important to us so I would hate for him to be in pain or less interested. Unfortunately I can't take birth control or get the tubal coil so ill do the old fashion route. Thanks for the informative post, you saved a lot of men and willys!

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  93. My friend, I went through the same grief you are going through. It has just about ended my marriage, and I still have occasional pain. My first two years were like a living hell. We had surprise twins, and I did my duty, thinking much like you that sex would be incredible, and no more kids! Anyway, little did I know that my whole mentality would change because of daily pain. Anyone who has pain on a daily basis probably knows that your whole mood and everything you get near is affected by pain. Sex itself while not painful, was torture for many days afterward. Lower back pain, throbbing in the genital area, and the worst part was this overall malaise post sex put me in. Everything became fuzzy. I went to multiple doctors over the next two years and all of them said it was in my head (the head on my neck). Even the top reversal surgeon at Uof Penn told me vasectomy does not cause pain. What saved me was a group of guys on yahoo that went through what I went through. Sadly my wife could not take having a husband who was constantly in pain. In deference to her, she was right, I was always miserable. My wife was smokin hot and we were only 5 years into a marriage when all this went wrong. Finally the pain subsided to a tolerable level after just letting things go. I later found out that I had low T, i could barely get an erection and I got laid off a couple times from high paying jobs due to the departments closing. What a terrible recipie for disaster. All this time my wife rode the storm with her job and tripled my salary. She just recently after 14 years of marriage told me she stopped caring about me. She said i was too tough on the kids, and she said i let the family down because I didnt find a good enough job after I got laid off. I am devastated, and it really all boils down to some of my actions because of being in agony for several years and her not being able to deal with it. We are stuck together for a least a year until we can unwind our finances, and its brutal living with a woman who does not love or respect me anymore, but life will go on. Thankfully after all these years, my pain has subsided, but what woman is going to care about a guy who cant get it up anymore coming off a divorce. Guys, i really recommend thinking over vasectomy a million times in your head...are you willing to take the chance of ruining over your life over that little "snip" that everyone says is so easy? If i had to do it again, i would run like hell.

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  94. Thank you to everybody who shared their stories, I've had a lot of pain and complication from testicular injuries so I know how hard it can be to talk about. I was considering the vasectomy option, and this was the first site I was able to find that wasn't simply doctors (who I have learned to mistrust in general) telling me how "complication-free" and "low-risk" it is. Thank you again, this definitely pushed me over the fence and firmly into the realm of NO WAY.

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  95. I got married to the love of my life and the man i love so much when i was 24 and i have always fantasized about how amazing our marriage is going to be together. Little did i know that this joy will soon be stolen away by his inability to father a child. He had watery sperm and his motility was low and because of that he could not get me pregnant for over 6 years and many friends and family had already tagged me as barren which was not true. We have searched far and wide for a cure/solution to his problem but to no avail, we visited several doctors, urologists bought different drugs but none seem to put the problem to an end. Still in our misery we went to see a cousin of ours on vacation when we brought the topic and he told us about someone who has a cure and he is very reliable. We contacted him and he sent us a medicine which my husband took and in a matter of weeks his sperm was thick and the count was more than average. Today we have two kids and we are living happily ever after. I decided to write my story to motivate those who have lost hope on ever getting a child, there is hope for you just contact him on info@ edlifepanacea. com i am 100% sure he can help you solve it permanently.

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  96. Oh my f**king God. I'm never having a vasectomy.

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  97. I have a wife who is the most amazing person ive ever met. I love adore and worship the ground she walks on. Ive had a bad childhood and its lived with me for many years ive ended up spending time in jail in 2012 to 2014. I ended up turning my life around and now im in the British Army but as my relationship grew stronger with my wife ive ended up drinking saying things that i dont mean also have had two seizures and overdosed on anti depressants im really struggling to understand why im like this. My marriage is on a temporary break and all i want to do is win my wife back i know people say its the drink but i can drink with my friends and im fine but then sometimes i drink and i dont know i turn into an idiot ive never hit or cheated on my wife i just shout swear i feel like ive lost my way. I need help in getting my wife back please help me. She is the most beautiful loving caring person ive ever met she accepts me for who iam and my past i feel like i have a devil on my shoulder that wants to be an idiot but on the other shoulder i have a person that wants to do good things i cook clean tell my wife i love her every day i work she doesn’t i do think in my mind i do my absolute best. But then i mess things up its so frustrating and all my problems has come to an end with the help of Dr. Oomirimiri contact his email: oomirimiri@gmail.com to get your what ever problems you have come to an end today also call +2347038832903 for fast responds

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  98. So I'm sat here with a bag of frozen peas on my balls (post vasectomy not some fetish) I had my procedure a few hours ago, and to be honest after reading these comments I can feel my balls inflating by the second. Surgery went well, although worryingly quick, but now I'm hoping (more like praying) that none of this happens to me. I'm 28 with my 4th son on the way and thought it was time to disqualif my Olympic swimmers for life.. so sorry to hear everybody's issues and I hope you fully recovery eventually.. btw comment to the author, you are a very talented writer, I like your use of humour and brutal honesty..

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  99. My urologist's practice has a Dr. Richard Chopp, Dr. Wang, and Dr. Hardeman. I used to see a dentist named Chip Silvertooth, and a chiropractor I only knew as Captain Crunch.

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  100. I don't really care about any of the post vasectomy effects except 1- you don't wind up with your perfect soul mate forever. That or she miraculously winds up preggers with some other man's baby and you sit there thinking why was I such a dupe? So I'd rather buy rubbers forever or find a woman who is more worth my time and effort than undergo something that I will regret before, during, and after, thank you VERY much.

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  101. Had my V done last week Wednesday and the intial prognosis was good, minimal swelling, some discomfort but nothing that would fall into the "pain" category. Fast forward one week and it's all gone downhill. I have pain in my left marble every time my heel strikes the ground when walking, sore lower back and constant pressure in my lower abdomen. Starting to feel flu like symptoms but no fever. I went back to the doctor and I was told it could be a "late bleed" due to the severe bruising on my bean bag, which is odd because post surgery I had a quarter size bruise that went away in a couple of days. He also put me on antibiotics just to make sure infection was not to blame for the sudden onset of all these symptoms. I received a call back today from the doctor and he expressed that in his opinion I was dealing with an autoimmune issue and I will need to follow up with him this coming Monday. Needless to say, I really hope I'm dealing with more of a lack of recovery issues and not an autoimmune issue. I feel like I followed the rules as they pertain to the recovery period but who knows, maybe I pushed more than I should have. Until I know more, I have to look at the glass as half full and I will work through this painful and now regrettable decision. More to come...

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  102. Thank you for sharing this. I considered it but then read stories upon stories like this one. Condoms sounds much better.

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